i finally got the keyboard/trackball fired up and working correctly again, on my att 8820.
so whilest it was working a few months ago, i think because optus never released the 8820 ive hit a brick wall, until optus get their hands on some 8820s it looks like my trusty 8820 will gather dust, until RIM decide to allow it to be activated across their servers again
maybe it all has to do with the 9000s floating around, they have just done a global flag for the time being.